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Originally Posted by Sam
When you trade forex you never actually take possession of any currency. Spot forex is based on a 2-day forward exchange agreement. In other words, today you agree to do the exchange in two days. You never actually get to that exchange point, though, because (assuming you carry the position overnight) your broker keeps rolling your position forward by offsetting today's transaction (doing an opposing transaction) and opening a new one. This is call rollover and it happens at the end of each trading day. Some brokers do it very overtly, others almost transparently.
So when you go long EUR/USD you never actually exchange USD for EUR. Nothing comes out of your account and nothing goes into it aside from the gains/losses on your trades.
That all said, your profits/losses are based on the idea that you are borrowing the short currency (USD), converting it to the long one (EUR) and depositing that currency - which is where the carry comes from.
In terms of your friends example, it's find for the stock market, but not for forex because while in stocks an exchange of possession of the stock actually takes place, that doesn't happen in forex. Think of being long as benefiting from appreciation and short as benefiting from depreciation and you will be much better off.
And remember that in forex you are always long one thing and short the other. As in the EUR/USD example, you are long the EUR and short the USD. That means you gain by appreciation of the EUR and you gain by depreciation of the USD (relatively to each other, obviously).
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Wow, thanks for the extensively enlightening reply Sam.. It really shed some light for me.
I still have some questions though. You mentioned that the trade is 2-day forward exchange (that we agreed to do the exchange in 2 days). So what actually happens when I held my position overnight? For example, I buy EUR/USD and keep it overnight. So the broker will actually sell EUR/USD at the end of the day, and buy the EUR/USD in the next opening day?
What does it do to me if for example I bought EUR/USD and keep it open for more than 2 days? Do I lose money or something?
I'm still confused about the profit/losses though. For example, I have $500 in my account, and I buy EUR/USD (that costs me $20 for 0.1 lot using 1:500 leverage. During 1.5000 rate, it would be around $0.67 per pips right?). So after this trade, I will have $480 left in my account right? And when I sold it at 1.5010, I would get 10 pips; it's equal to $6.7 right? After this, how much money do I have in my accounts? Is it $506.7 ($500 + 10 pips profit/$6.7) ? Or is it $486.7 ($480 + 10 pips profit/$6.7) ?
Can you also explain the short-trading using balanced-simulation like the above story?